ABWE and Islam
Topic: ABWE & Islam
Editor: A.A Lewis
TABLE OF CONTENTS:
My reply to Dr. Olsen's reply about his book. The following is included:
original e-mail to Dr. Kempton, then president of ABWE
2. Dr. Kempton's e-mail to me by his secretary
3. Dr. Vic Olsen's reply about his book DAKTAR II
4. G. L. Archer's Appendix.
NOTE: After more than a month and a half Dr. Olsen has not replied. The preceding correspondence should show clearly to anyone how ABWE deals with Islam.
IF DR. OLSEN SHOULD REPLY IN THE FUTURE TO OUR CORRESPONDENCE WE WILL ADD IT TO THIS ARTICLE.
ALSO a few typographical errors have been corrected.
From: Allison Lewis
To: Olsen, Dr & Mrs Viggo B.
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 12:22 PM
Subject: DAKTAR II
Dear Dr. Olsen,
I finally have my reply to your response of December 07, 2001 cut down as much as I can and still make sure that it is clear.
I am sending it as an attachment to this e-mail. It is in MS Word.doc format. If you should need it in some other format please let me know. To send it in e-mail form would loose all the formatting and the 9 pages might not even fit in your e-mail box.
I would have had this reply to you long ago but the past few months have been pretty hard on me.
"Allison Lewis" email@example.com
To: "ABWE" firstname.lastname@example.org
Subject: RUDOLPH & OLSEN
Date: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 11:28 PM
Dear Dr. Kempton:
Your Winter 2000 MESSAGE - Prayer Directory raises a couple of questions.
1. [This question is NOT relevant to the 2nd question and is therefore omitted - aal]
2. I noticed also that Vic (Viggo) Olsen, M.D., author of "Daktar" and "Daktar II" has been moved to your "Administration & Training Center". This is a very influential position!
In "Daktar II" pages 59 & 60 (and with the same tone throughout) he wrote with reference to the Muslim political leader, Ayub: ".... No wonder, Your Excellency, that Jews, Christians, and Muslims REVERE [words of Dr. Olsen - emphasis added - aal] the Bible's Old Testament, for therein are the Holy Taurat (Pentateuch) and Holy Zabur (Psalms). No wonder that Christians and Muslims both recognize the Injil Sharif (Holy New Testament) of Jesus as sacred Scripture, the Word of the living God."
"Yes," Ayub responded, "ALONG WITH THE HOLY KORAN, WE MUSLIMS DO REVERE [the Bible and emphasis added - aal] the Holy Taurat, Zabur, and Injil."
Dr. Kempton, both you and Dr. Olsen know full well that the Muslims, of whatever stripe, do NOT REVERE the Pentateuch, Psalms, New Testament OR the only begotten Son of God Jesus Christ. To the Muslims our Lord Jesus Christ is only a man a prophet or an apostle of Allah like Moses, Abraham, Isaiah AND MUHAMMAD [this spelling depends on the "English" translation(s) we use - aal]. To save you time looking up the verses in the Koran I am listing the Sura, Chapter and Verse before the text:
Sura 2:136: Say: We believe in Allah and (in) that which had been revealed to us, and (in) that which was revealed to Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the tribes, and (in) that which was given to Moses and Jesus, and (in) that which was given to the prophets from their Lord [Allah - aal], WE DO NOT MAKE ANY DISTINCTION BETWEEN ANY OF THEM [emphasis added - aal], and to him [i.e. Allah - aal] do we submit.
Sura 3:67: Abraham was not a Jew nor a Christian but he was (an) upright (man), a Muslim [emphasis added - aal], and he was not one of the polytheists.
Sura 4:157: And their saying: Surely we have killed the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, the apostle of Allah; and THEY DID NOT KILL HIM NOR DID THEY CRUCIFY HIM, but it appeared to them so (like Jesus) and most surely those who differ therein are only in a doubt about it; they have no knowledge respecting it, but only follow a conjecture [emphasis added - aal], and they killed him not for sure [i.e. for sure; they did not kill him. (WE ARE THEREFORE LEFT WITHOUT A SAVIOR) Insertion to the original e-mail - aal].
Sura 4:171: O followers of the Book [the Bible - aal]! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak (lies) against Allah, but (speak) the truth; THE MESSIAH, JESUS SON OF MARY IS ONLY AN APOSTLE OF ALLAH and His Word which He communicated to Mary and a spirit from Him; believe therefore in Allah and his apostles, and say not, Three. Desist. It is better for you; Allah is only one God; far be it from His glory that He should have a son [emphasis added - aal], whatever is in the Heavens and whatever is in the Earth is His, and Allah is sufficient for a Protector.
Sura 6:70: And leave those who have taken their religion for a play and an idle sport, and whom this world's life has deceived, and remind (them) thereby lest a soul should be given up to destruction for what it has earned; it SHALL NOT HAVE BESIDES ALLAH ANY GUARDIAN NOR AN INTERCESSOR, and if it should seek to give every compensation, it shall not be accepted from it; these are they who shall be given up to destruction for what they earned; they shall have a drink of boiling water and a painful chastisement because they disbelieved [emphasis added - aal - WORKS PLUS FAITH (belief) in Allah for the Muslim earns salvation - aal].
Sura 61:6: And when Jesus son of Mary said: O children of Israel! surely I am the apostle of Allah to you, verifying that which is before Me of the Taurat and giving the good news of an Apostle who will come after me, his name being Ahmad [Muhammad - emphasis added - aal], but when he came to them with clear arguments they said: This is clear magic.
HOW CAN ABWE GIVE SUPPORT TO SUCH BLASPHEMY ABOUT THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AND THE INSPIRED WORD OF GOD?
A. Allison Lewis
"Franz, Dolores" email@example.com
Subject: RE: RUDOLPH & OLSEN
Date: Monday, February 19, 2001 5:01 PM
To: Allison Lewis
Date: February 19, 2001
Dear Brother Lewis:
Thank you for your February 15 communication. I hasten this response as I am presently at home with the flu. Therefore, please understand the brevity of this response. I am dictating this note via phone through my secretary.
1. [Question 1 is not relevant to the subject of this correspondence has been deleted - aal].
2. Viggo Olsen and Daktar II, pages 59 and 60. I am sending a copy of your communication to Dr. Olsen requesting that he respond as the author. I am sure that you will hear from him.
I assure you that ABWE would not give support to any blasphemy about the Lord Jesus Christ or the inspired word of God. WE hold tenaciously to the deity of Christ and have preached it faithfully to all Muslims throughout the world for the last 73 years. It has cost us dearly with missionaries who have died preaching that message in the midst of a total Muslim culture. Since Dr. Olsen has lived among them for 35 years, he is more imminently qualified to respond with the proper candor.
WENDELL W. KEMPTON, D.D., PRESIDENT
. From: "Dr.
and Mrs. Viggo B. Olsen" firstname.lastname@example.org
To: "A. Allison Lewis" email@example.com
Date: Friday, December 07, 2001 8:42 PM
Greetings from California! And I thank you for your recent e-mail letter. I apologize for not getting back to you before, but our work load escalated following the Sept. 11 terrorist attack in the US. Now I have a window of time to respond to your questions and comments.
I have restudied your letter tonight. It looks like there are two areas you would like me to comment on:
1. HOW CAN ABWE GIVE SUPPORT TO SUCH BLASPHEMY ABOUT THE LORD JESUS CHRIST...?
The question came after several quotations from the Qur'an. These verses teach that:
- Muhammad makes no distinction between any of the prophets. This would mean that Jesus is not superior to the other prophets.
- Abraham was a Muslim.
- (The Jews) did not crucify or kill Jesus.
- The Messiah Jesus is only an apostle of God, not the Son of God.
- There is no guardian or intercessor other than God Himself.
- Jesus said that there will be an apostle who comes after him; his name will be Ahmad.
Perhaps there is some misunderstanding here. Neither ABWE nor I "give support" to these grossly anti-Christian and completely inaccurate teachings. We, too, consider these teachings blasphemy. We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ is truly the Son of God, deity united with humanity. He was crucified, died, and was buried. On the third day He rose bodily from the dead in a glorious resurrection. Forty days later He ascended to heaven and took His place at the right hand of God the Father. And we believe that salvation from sin is available, not through doing good works, but only through faith in Christ and his substitutionary death for us on the cross.
In Daktar II, pp. 59-62 I have emphasized most of these same themes, along with an exposition of the gospel.
2. DR. KEMPTON, BOTH YOU AND DR. OLSEN KNOW FULL WELL THAT THE MUSLIMS, OF WHATEVER STRIPE, DO NOT REVERE THE PENTATEUCH, PSALMS, NEW TESTAMENT....
In your letter you made a reference to pp. 59 and 60 in Daktar II. I was explaining the gospel to President Ayub Khan. He replied to my point about the Scriptures: "Yes," Ayub responded, "along with the Holy Koran, we Muslims do revere the Holy Taurat, Zabur, and Injil."
Why did he affirm his belief in these Scriptures? Why do most Muslims affirm these Scriptures? Because Muhammad in the Qur'an affirmed these books as true, holy Scripture. He never backed down from that. He never declared that those Scriptures were changed or corrupted. The Qur'an declares that those are true Scriptures that should be studied and obeyed. Here are references to some Qur'anic passages on this subject:
I. The Qur'an declares that God Himself gave these Scriptures to His prophets:
(a) "We did give the Book, Taurat, to Moses," [Sura (chapter and verse) - aal] 32:23; cp. 2:50, 81; 11:112; 21:49; 25:37; 37:117;40:56; 41:45; 45:15. The Pentateuch (Taurat) is clearly intended in all these passages.
(b) "To David We gave the Psalms (Zabur)," 17:57; also 4:161.
(c) "We gave him (Jesus) the Gospel (NT) (Injil)," 5:50; cp. 19:31; 57:27.
(d) "He sent down the Taurat and the Injil for the guidance of mankind," 3:2.
II. The earlier books are invariably spoken of in terms of high praise, thus the Taurat is said to be:
(a) "The Book of God," 5:48; cp. 2:95; 3:22.
(b) "The Word of God," 2:70.
(c) "Al Furqan," i.e., the Illumination, 21:49; 2:50; a title of distinction applied also to the Qur'an, 3:2.
(d) "the enlightening Book," 3:181. Jalaluddin, in his commentary, says that the Taurat and Injil are here indicated.
(e) "a light and guidance to man....a decision for all matters and a guidance and a mercy....complete for him who acts aright," 6:91, 155.
III. Other passages refer to the inspiration, authority, and proper use of the Scriptures then in the possession of the "People of the Book" (Christians and Jews), thus:
(a) "Verily We have inspired thee (Muhammad) as We inspired Noah and the Prophets after him," 4:161; cp. 21:7; 42:1; 3:66.
(b) "They (the Jews) have inherited the Book," 7:168; cp. 42:13.
(c) "They have already the Taurat in which is God's judgment," 5:47; 3:75.
(d) Jews and Christians are said to be diligent readers of their Scriptures, 2:41, 107, 115; 10:94 cp. 3:109
(e) Those of the Jews "who hold fast by the Book" will be rewarded, 7:169, also, "if they (Jews and Christians) observe the Taurat and Injil," 5:70.
(f) (Conquered) Jews and Christians are required not only to accept the Qur'an, but to believe in and observe the Taurat and Injil, as well, e.g., "Ye have no ground to stand on until ye observe the Taurat and Injil," 5:72; cp. 4:135.
(g) Muhammad himself says he is bidden to believe in the Scriptures, and declares his unqualified faith in them; "Say (O Muhammad) 'In whatsoever books God has sent down do I believe,' " 42:14; 29:45; 3:78; cp. especially "Ye (Muhammad and his people) believe in the Book, the whole of it," 3:115. Also, "If thou art in doubt about that which We have sent down to thee, inquire of those (Christians and Jews) who have read the Scriptures before thee," 10:94.
IV. Finally, it is stated that the Qur'an:
(a) verifies and attests the previous Scriptures, e.g., "He hath sent down to thee (Muhammad) the Book (Qur'an) in truth, confirming what was before it....the Taurat and the Injil," 3:2; 10:38; 46:11, 29; 6:92; 2:38, 83, 91, 95; 4:50.
(b) is "their safeguard," 5:52; which the commentator Baidawi (thirteenth century AD) explains to mean, "A keeper over the whole of the (sacred) Books, such as shall preserve them from change, and witness to their truth and authority."
The general tenor of all these passages, scattered throughout the Qur'an, establishes beyond question the fact that the earlier Books were believed by Muhammad to be genuine and authoritative because of their divine origin. Indeed, his main argument with Christians and Jews was just this accept the Qur'an also, because it confirms what was sent down before it, e.g., "O ye, to whom the Scriptures have been given! Believe in what We have sent down (the Qur'an), confirmatory of the Scripture which is in your hands." 4:50. [Muhammad had no real acquaintance with the Scriptures. All he had was a corrupt tradition of the stories of the Scriptures passed down through the centuries. Of this there can be no dispute. Some of the evidence has been collected. Please see at the end of this e-mail: ARCHER, GLEASON L. JR. A Survey of OLD TESTAMENT INTRODUCTION. Paperback Edition, 1985; CHICAGO, IL: MOODY PRESS. Appendix 2 - aal].
NOTE: Depending on which version of the Qur'an you are using, the verse references may be perfect or they may be located 1-4 verses before or after my citation in each case [I believe that there was only one reference that I could not locate AND they do make reference to the topic you mention - aal].
Because of this high respect for our holy Scripture, Muhammad called Christians and Jews "People of the Book":
- O People of the Book! Ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye stand fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that has come to you from your Lord." (5:71-my emphasis) [the emphasis was lost in the e-mail - aal].
- Dispute not with the People of the Book, save in the fairer manner, except for those of them that do wrong. And say, "We believe in what has been sent down to us (Qur'an) and what has been sent down to you (Pentateuch, Psalms, New Testament)...." (29:45-my emphasis) [the emphasis was lost in the e-mail - aal].
This Muslim teaching that we are "People of the Book" is deeply ingrained in most ordinary Muslim people. Hundreds of times in the country where we served Muslims would say to us, "We are Books brothers because you are People of the Book!" They meant by that that we both revere [emphasis added - aal] the Pentateuch, Psalms, and the New Testament.
We saw how this worked out in another practical way. We translated the New Testament using a Muslim-friendly vocabulary, the heart language of the people in the land where we served. We entitled it the Injil Sharif. This means the Holy New Testament. The Muslim people have such a deep respect for the word "Injil" that they bought tens of thousands of copies of the Scripture. This New Testament became the #1 best selling book in that nation. The results have been phenomenal. The people know the name "Injil" very well. They had heard it all their lives always in terms of the highest respect although they had never seen one [Emphasis added - aal]. That term was the doorway into the hearts of multitudes; literally thousands of them have been accepted in the Beloved One. [Note: The word "Injil" is the Arabic word meaning the same as the Greek "Euangelion," gospel or evangel (good news)].
There is, however, a fact that might mitigate [!!! - aal] the effect of the high regard that Muslim people have for our Scriptures [Emphasis added - aal]. When they come to know the vast differences in the teaching of their Qur'an and our holy Scriptures, they often say we do not have the originals that our current versions have been changed and corrupted. It is quite easy to show them that our versions match those dated hundreds of years before Muhammad was born.
Brother Lewis, I hope these explanations will make clear that there are no inaccuracies such as you described in those pages of Daktar II, that we hold no blasphemous views on any of the topics highlighted in your letter [Emphasis added - aal] that we hold steadfastly to the plenary verbal inspiration of Scripture that we are fundamentalist in our outlook and that we consider it life's greatest privilege to serve the Lord Jesus Christ our Savior.
[Two paragraphs dealing with my personal health have been deleted - aal]
Thank you, too, for sending me the information about your organization, Christian Beliefs . I admire the valuable work you are doing and your faithfulness to the Lord and His Word.
Yours in Christ,
Viggo B. Olsen, M.D.
Dr. Olsen by the very manner in which you dealt with the Moslem political leader you, and ABWE by supporting your book, DO INDEED "GIVE SUPPORT TO SUCH BLASPHEMY ABOUT THE LORD JESUS CHRIST." No amount of pious pleas of orthodoxy can remedy the blatant blasphemy that you have taken part in.
The Moslem Allah (god) is no more the true God than the "gods" described by Isaiah or the "god" of the Mormons; the "gods" of the Hindu or the "god" of Baal of Old Testament days (and Elijah's message to those worshipers was hardly: "They REVERED the true God!"). The Allah of the Muslim IS NOT THE LIVING GOD; and maker of all things created. IN FACT Allah is a "god" NOT ONE LITTLE BIT better than the Sun "god" of Egypt; or the "god" of the metal worker or wood carver whose creation cannot hear or respond in any way. God speaks of this "god" in Isaiah 44:6, 9, 10 & 14-17 [KJV-with old English words, endings and some changes to more properly reflect the Hebrew text - aal]:
6 Thus says the LORD the King of Israel, and His redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside Me there is no God. . . .
9 Those who make a graven image are all of them vanity; and their treasured things shall not profit; and they are their own witnesses; they see not, nor know; so that they are ashamed. 10 Those who have formed a god, or molten a graven image that is profitable for nothing. . . .
14 He cuts down cedars, or takes the cypress or the oak, or he lets them grow for him among the trees of the forest. He planted pine and the rain made it grow. 15 Then it is for man to burn: and he takes of them and he warms himself; yes, he kindles fire, and bakes bread; also he fashions a god, and worships. He makes it an idol and bows to it. 16 He burns half of it in fire; with half of it he roasts roast meat and eats a meal until he is full: yes, he warms himself and says, Ah, I am warm, I see fire: 17 And of the rest of it he makes it into a god, he makes it into an idol. He bows to it, and worships and prays to it, and says, 'Save me; for you are my god.'
The Moslems Allah is a false god as the following verses from the Koran plainly show:
Sura 4:171: O followers of the Book! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak (lies) against Allah, but (speak) the truth; the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary is only an apostle of Allah and His Word which He communicated to Mary and a spirit from Him; believe therefore in Allah and His apostles, and say not, Three: Desist: It is better for you; Allah is only one God; far be it from His glory that He should have a son, whatever is in the Heavens and whatever is in the Earth is His, and Allah is sufficient for a Protector.
Sura 3:84: Say: We believe in Allah and what has been revealed to us, and what was revealed to Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the tribes, and what was given to Moses and Jesus and to the prophets from their Lord; we do not make any distinction between any of them, and to Him do we submit.
Sura 9:30: And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!
Sura 98:6: Surely those who disbelieve from among the followers of the Book and the polytheists shall be in the fire of hell, abiding therein; they are the worst of men.
We could debate many things you say in your book and your defense of the one issue which we referred to. However we will only deal with the one issue of PARTICIPATING IN BLASPHEMY ABOUT THE PERSON AND WORK OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. NO ONE CAN DENY THAT THE MOSLEM RELIGION BLASPHEMES THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, both in written word and in practice. This does not mean that every Arab is a Moslem or that there are no real Arab Christians though they are very few indeed. Christ Himself makes very clear what blasphemy is in the following passage:
GOOD SHEPHERD BLASPHEMED
22 And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication, and it was winter. 23 And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's porch. 24 Then came the Jews round about him, and said to him, How long do You make us to doubt? If You are the Christ, tell us plainly.
25 Jesus answered them, I told you and you do not believe. The works which I do in My Fathers name, these bear witness of Me. 26 But you do not believe because you are not of My sheep. 27 My sheep hear My voice, I know them and they follow Me. 28 I give to them eternal life. And by no means will they ever perish and no one shall snatch [arpazein] them out of My hand. 29 My Father, Who has given them to Me, is greater than all. No one is able to snatch [arpazein] them out of the hand of the Father. 30 I and the Father are one.
31 Again the Jews took up stones in order that they might stone Him. 32 Jesus answered them,
Many good works I showed you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?
33 The Jews answered Him,
For a good work we do not stone You but for blasphemy [blasfhmiaV]. Even because You, being a man, make Yourself God [claim to be],
[NOTE the following comment on 1JO 2:22, 23 Rollock remarks, The Jews and the Turks [Moslems - aal] in the present day profess to worship God earnestly, not only without the Son, but even with contempt of the Son Jesus Christ. But the whole of such worship is idolatrous, and that which they worship is an idol [emphasis added - aal]. There is no knowledge of the true God except in the face of the Son. Quoted by J. C. Ryle, John, vol. I, p. 288.
[Another writes: "Islam rejects the Jesus of the Bible; it rejects His deity; it rejects His death, burial, and resurrection as the full and only payment for humanity's sin; it rejects Christ's words: I am the way, the truth, the life; no man comes to the Father except by Me (JOH 14:6). Coming to the conclusion that Islam rejects God's only way of salvation hardly requires a Ph.D. in theology. So where are the minds of more than a few evangelical leaders in this?" T. A. McMahon].
34 Jesus answered them,
Has it not been written in your Law that I said, You are gods [PSA 82:6]? 35 If he called them gods (to whom the Word of God came, and the Scripture cannot be broken) 36 do you say of Him, whom the Father has sanctified and sent into the world that, You are blaspheming [blasfhmeiV] because I said, 'I am the Son of God?' 37 If I do not the works of My Father, do not believe Me. 38 But if I do [the works of My Father], even if you do not believe Me, believe the works that you may know and understand that the Father is in Me and I in the Father.
39 Therefore they sought again to arrest [piasai] Him but He went forth out of their hand. 40 And He went away again across the Jordan to the place where John was first baptizing and there He remained. 41 Many came to Him and said,
John indeed did no sign but all things that John said about this One was true.
42 And many believed in Him there.
. Archer, Gleason, L. Jr. A Survey of OLD TESTAMENT INTRODUCTION. Paperback edition, 1985; Chicago IL: Moody Press.
Appendix 2. ANACHRONISMS AND HISTORICAL INACCURACIES IN THE KORAN - pp. 506-508:
Sura 11:42-43. Noah's (unnamed) son is said to have refused to take refuge in the ark while the flood waters were rising, and despite his father's plea, chose rather to flee to a mountaintop, from which he was swept away by a wave.
(GEN 6-7 indicates that Noah had only three sons, and that they all entered the ark. GEN 10 gives the line of descendants from each).
Sura 12:11-20. Joseph did not go seeking his brother up at Dothan (as GEN 37 records - gla), but rather the brothers, having already plotted his death, persuaded Jacob to let him go with them simply for fun and sport. Having gotten him into their power, they put him down into a well with water in it (rather than a dry pit - gla). Nor was it they who sold him to the passing merchantmen, but rather a chance wayfarer who had come to the well to draw water. He sold the boy to the merchants "for a few dirhams"
(rather than the substantial price of twenty shekels of silver, as GEN 37:28 states).
Sura 26:55-60. In Egypt, the Israelites were stated by Pharaoh to be but "a scanty band" (in contrast to EXO 1:9 - gla). As they are permitted to leave Egypt, they are said to be forsaking "their gardens and fountains and splendid dwellings." Apparently they had not been subjected to slavery at all (for no mention is made of it), but rather had enjoyed wealth and luxury while in Egypt.
(This renders the whole motive for deliverance of God's covenant people from Egypt rather obscure).
Sura 3:41. Zacharias said to the angel, "Lord, give me a token." He said, "Thy token shall be that for three days thou shalt speak to no man but by signs."
(LUK 1:18-20 makes it clear that he was to remain speechless until the promised child should be born, or about nine or ten months).
Sura 5:119. "And when God shall say, 'O Jesus, son of Mary, hast thou said to mankind, "Take me and my mother as two Gods beside God,"' he shall say, 'Glory be to Thee! It is not for me to say that which I know to be not the truth. Had I said that, verily Thou wouldst have known it; Thou knowest what is in me.'"
(This involves a complete misunderstanding of the Trinity, with Mary as a third person, rather than the Holy Spirit. It also implies that Jesus denied He was the Son of God; cf. MAR 14:61-62 and related passages).
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